From GUMBY at MIT-OZ  Mon Aug 15 06:43:00 1983
From: GUMBY at MIT-OZ (David Vinayak Wallace)
Date: Aug 15 1983  00:43 EDT (Mon)
Subject: monmode bug(?)
In-Reply-To: Msg of 13 Aug 1983  23:02-EDT from SHAWN at MIT-ML
Message-ID: <[MIT-OZ].GUMBY.15-Aug-83 00:43:28>

    Date: Saturday, 13 August 1983  23:02-EDT
    From: SHAWN at MIT-ML

    Is the fact that when you have 'prmmch' set, (printing machine name),
    and are in monmode, (for example 'ML: '), and you type "clear", when
    it goes to the top of your screen, it only prints the ':' not the 'ML:'.
    Is this a bug??? (If not, is there any reason for it other then that's
    how someone liked it?), Thanks.


You'll notice that ^L will never reprint the prompt.  It will echo
whatever pending typing exists (in this case a ":").  This has nothing
to do with either :MONMOD or PRMMCH.

From CSTACY at MIT-MC  Mon Aug 15 00:06:00 1983
From: CSTACY at MIT-MC (Christopher C. Stacy)
Date: August 14 1983 18:06 EDT
Subject: new ITS version, install at leisure.
Message-ID: <mailman.1338.1479821133.4695.its@nocrew.org>


ITS 1351 changes .SHUTDN to not allow shutdowns further away than 30 days,
and fixes some SYSJOB code which would have broken under certain assembly
conditionals.  I'll install it around eventually; nothing very interesting in here.

(The .SHUTDN restriction is due to delta-t being computed wrong for the DEDBLK
clock queue list entry; this would crash the system.)


From GSB at MIT-ML  Sat Aug 13 00:00:00 1983
From: GSB at MIT-ML (GSB at MIT-ML)
Date: 13 Aug 1983 00:00
Subject: c100 inschar lossage
Message-ID: <mailman.1339.1479821133.4695.its@nocrew.org>

Multiple insert-characters never ever ever succeed in outputting the
null in the sequence which is what turns off insert-character mode,
on anything but the first.  This is what i presume is an insert-char
operation with an argument, which comes in over a supdup.

I have seen this lossage locally in what i presume are only single
insert-character operations, but it cannot be reliably reproduced then.
However multiple insert-char sequence coming from (say) emacs on OZ
reliably produce the null for the first and none of the others.


From SHAWN at MIT-ML  Sat Aug 13 00:00:00 1983
From: SHAWN at MIT-ML (SHAWN at MIT-ML)
Date: 13 Aug 1983 00:00
Subject: monmode bug(?)
Message-ID: <mailman.1340.1479821133.4695.its@nocrew.org>

Is the fact that when you have 'prmmch' set, (printing machine name),
and are in monmode, (for example 'ML: '), and you type "clear", when
it goes to the top of your screen, it only prints the ':' not the 'ML:'.
Is this a bug??? (If not, is there any reason for it other then that's
how someone liked it?), Thanks.

		Yours In Hacking,
		  -Shawn


From ELLEN at MIT-MC  Fri Aug 12 05:49:00 1983
From: ELLEN at MIT-MC (V. Ellen Golden)
Date: August 11 1983 23:49 EDT
Subject: console decwriter keyboard stops working
Message-ID: <mailman.1341.1479821133.4695.its@nocrew.org>

DEC appears to have fixed this problem (??!!!) when they PM'd
the machine, which was down due to precisely this situation when
they arrived... so I guess it is working.....

From Moon at SCRC-TENEX  Thu Aug 11 00:00:00 1983
From: Moon at SCRC-TENEX (David A. Moon)
Date: Thursday, 11 August 1983, 00:00
Subject: console decwriter keyboard stops working
In-Reply-To: The message of 6 Aug 83 10:38-EDT from Christopher C. Stacy <CSTACY at MIT-MC>
Message-ID: <mailman.1342.1479821133.4695.its@nocrew.org>

    Date: 6 August 1983 10:38 EDT
    From: Christopher C. Stacy <CSTACY @ MIT-MC>
    Please get someone to look at MC's console typewriter.
    It frequently gets into this mode where the keyboard
    does not work at all, and nothing can be typed.
Isn't there some DEC braindamage where this is caused by the cover
not being quite closed all the way, and/or the thing thinking it
is out of paper?  Or is that some other model of decwriter?

From Moon at SCRC-TENEX  Thu Aug 11 00:00:00 1983
From: Moon at SCRC-TENEX (David A. Moon)
Date: Thursday, 11 August 1983, 00:00
Subject: DM frotzed
In-Reply-To: The message of 8 Aug 83 03:31-EDT from Christopher C. Stacy <CSTACY at MIT-MC>
Message-ID: <mailman.1343.1479821133.4695.its@nocrew.org>

    Date: 8 August 1983 03:31 EDT
    From: Christopher C. Stacy <CSTACY @ MIT-MC>
    I just noticed DM had crashed a while back (with no error
    messages or anything, and questionable state in the console).
    So I tried to reboot it.  DSKDMP says the MFD is clobberred.
There's a copy of the MFD on each drive and sometimes this message
means that the disk controller or channel is broken or the processor 
is broken (what it really means is that dskdmp tried to read the mfd
and either got a disk error or some checkword in it didn't have the
right value).

From CSTACY at MIT-MC  Mon Aug  8 09:31:00 1983
From: CSTACY at MIT-MC (Christopher C. Stacy)
Date: August 8 1983 03:31 EDT
Subject: DM frotzed
Message-ID: <mailman.1344.1479821133.4695.its@nocrew.org>

I just noticed DM had crashed a while back (with no error
messages or anything, and questionable state in the console).
So I tried to reboot it.  DSKDMP says the MFD is clobberred.
If there is a 9-track MAGDMP format tape for it, I will try
to fix this, if anyone cares.  If it cannot be fixed of
course, someone will have to reload the file system.
Should I look at it?

From CStacyatMIT-MC  Sun Aug  7 00:00:00 1983
From: CStacyatMIT-MC (Christopher C. Stacy)
Date: Sunday, 7 August 1983, 00:00
Subject: No subject
In-Reply-To: The message of 6 Aug 83 00:23-EDT from Kent M. Pitman <KMP>
Message-ID: <mailman.1345.1479821133.4695.its@nocrew.org>

In crashed ITS 1348 in CRASH;LUUOEX, on MIT-MC:

The routine which builds Internet datagram headers was smashed
somehow.  IPKHDR+3 (64012), normally a MOVEM, is zero (which of 
course looks like a UUO).

Also, I am not sure exactly what this implies, but if you look at the
"M" display in PEEK, it complains about not being able to trace some
memory pointers ("Bad mem ptr data for 979 pages!").

Anyone else want to look at this dump further?  
If not I'll delete it in a few days.

From CSTACY at MIT-MC  Sat Aug  6 16:38:00 1983
From: CSTACY at MIT-MC (Christopher C. Stacy)
Date: August 6 1983 10:38 EDT
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <mailman.1346.1479821133.4695.its@nocrew.org>

Please get someone to look at MC's console typewriter.
It frequently gets into this mode where the keyboard
does not work at all, and nothing can be typed.
Being the console tty, this typically goes unnoticed
until the system needs to be reloaded or something, sigh.

From KMP at MIT-MC  Sat Aug  6 06:23:00 1983
From: KMP at MIT-MC (Kent M. Pitman)
Date: August 6 1983 00:23 EDT
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <mailman.1347.1479821133.4695.its@nocrew.org>

MC crashed with the message:
 MUUO in Exec Mode, PC = 304000,,64013
 PI Level 7 BugHalt
  BUGPC/ LUUOEX
  Q-1/  JSR BUGAWF

It had been down for an hour and a half, and there were no wizards in sight,
so I dumped it to CRASH;LUUOEX and I reloaded the machine. I made an entry
in the log book to this effect.
--kmp

From ZIPPY at MIT-MC  Fri Aug  5 06:25:00 1983
From: ZIPPY at MIT-MC (Zippy the Pinhead)
Date: August 5 1983 00:25 EDT
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <mailman.1348.1479821133.4695.its@nocrew.org>



>From evan Fri Jul  1 23:34:10 1983
To: sys-bozos at cogs
Subject: So I had this dream...


	The earth was going to be destroyed: there were these aliens
who were going to eradicate all life on earth real soon so they could
use it for themselves. There were two different castes of these aliens:
A variety which resembled Dean Bob Randolph, and type which looked like
Don Saklad. I addition to being about to kill everyone, these aliens had
the additional bad feature of being obnoxious. The Dean Bob aliens were
wandering around telling everyone that it was really best for us to be
extermiated and that, in time, we would come to understand that the earth
wasn't right for us. The Saklad aliens were bothering everyone with
stupid questions about how to use the earth and the things on it.

	I was rather upset by the impending demise of EVERYBODY, but I
discovered that we had been visited year earlier by friendly aliens, who
had left us with a planetary defense system which would protect us from
the nasty aliens. Unfortunately, these aliens had been here several
years ago, and they had wired the defense system into the guts of the
AI-10! In order to activate the defense system, you had to boot AI and
log in as RMS, then type ":defend".

	The rest of the dream consisted of wandering around Tech Square
trying to get someone to give me a Lisp-Machine memory card so that I
could save all life on earth. No one would give me one. They all had
important things to do with them. So I went from office to office trying
to convince someone to help, and every time I rode the elevator, I was
accosted by a Saklad alien asking some question like: "What is this
water stuff and what do we do with it? Is it documented?"

	Then the phone rang and I woke up. Thank Heaven...


					---Evan


From LIN at MIT-MC  Fri Aug  5 06:20:00 1983
From: LIN at MIT-MC (Herb Lin)
Date: August 5 1983 00:20 EDT
Subject: tapes...
In-Reply-To: Msg of 4 Aug 1983 23:42-EDT from Christopher C. Stacy <CStacy>
Message-ID: <mailman.1349.1479821133.4695.its@nocrew.org>

tnx.

From CStacyatMIT-MC  Thu Aug  4 00:00:00 1983
From: CStacyatMIT-MC (Christopher C. Stacy)
Date: Thursday, 4 August 1983, 00:00
Subject: tapes...
In-Reply-To: The message of 4 Aug 83 23:05-EDT from Herb Lin <LIN at MIT-MC>
Message-ID: <mailman.1350.1479821133.4695.its@nocrew.org>

You can read tapes between AI,ML, and MC.  (DM has nine-track drives.)
Just use LOAD command of DUMP as usual.  I hear that due to drive
alignment, the most successful place to read AI tapes is on ML.

Also, there is a command in DUMP to read the backup directories from
AI if they are re-loaded to disk someplace.

From LIN at MIT-MC  Fri Aug  5 05:05:00 1983
From: LIN at MIT-MC (Herb Lin)
Date: August 4 1983 23:05 EDT
Subject: tapes...
Message-ID: <mailman.1351.1479821133.4695.its@nocrew.org>

this is addressed to system wizards - does anyone know if tapes written on 
the old AI machine can be read onto MC?  If so, how can I do it...

tnx.