From CSTACY at MIT-MC  Wed Dec 21 10:48:00 1983
From: CSTACY at MIT-MC (Christopher C. Stacy)
Date: December 21 1983 04:48 EST
Subject: weirdness
Message-ID: <mailman.1266.1479821131.4695.its@nocrew.org>


The PWORD accounts database was clobbered tonite somehow, apparently
when the system crashed due to memory parity errors.  (The DSK module
was reporting them so I assume this means it was during disk DMA.)
Apparently the file was clobbered when the system crashed, it has been
zeroed or had some pointers shuffled or something -- I haven't looked
at it yet but the file was still the correct length. I was under the
impression that this sort of thing could not happen.

USER-A people: Anyway, we got it back off of tape from Monday.

Chris

From CSTACY at MIT-MC  Sun Dec 18 18:13:00 1983
From: CSTACY at MIT-MC (Christopher C. Stacy)
Date: December 18 1983 12:13 EST
Subject: No subject
In-Reply-To: Msg of 17 Dec 1983 12:34 EST from "Richard Kovalcik, Jr." <RK>
Message-ID: <mailman.1267.1479821131.4695.its@nocrew.org>


    Date: 17 December 1983 12:34 EST
    From: "Richard Kovalcik, Jr." <RK>
    To:   BUG-ITS, BUG-TCP
    cc:   RK

    Any reason why MC is making outgoing TCP/IP connections but 
    not accepting incoming ones? Mail is still backing up for MC
    on various sites becuase of this.
    -Rick

For a while the system was in debug mode which does this.

From RK at MIT-MC  Sat Dec 17 18:34:00 1983
From: RK at MIT-MC (Richard Kovalcik, Jr.)
Date: December 17 1983 12:34 EST
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <mailman.1268.1479821131.4695.its@nocrew.org>

Any reason why MC is making outgoing TCP/IP connections but not accepting incoming ones?
Mail is still backing up for MC on various sites becuase of this.

-Rick

P.S.  Both telnet and smtp gets resets immediately when you try to open to
them from both CISL and MIT-Multics.

From PGS at MIT-MC  Fri Dec 16 00:23:00 1983
From: PGS at MIT-MC (Patrick G. Sobalvarro)
Date: December 15 1983 18:23 EST
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <mailman.1269.1479821131.4695.its@nocrew.org>

    Date: 8 December 1983 01:29 EST
    From: Christopher C. Stacy <CSTACY @ MIT-MC>
    To: PGS @ MIT-MC
    cc: BUG-FINGER @ MIT-MC, BUG-HOSTS @ MIT-MC
    In-reply-to: Msg of 7 Dec 1983 16:36 EST from Patrick G. Sobalvarro <PGS>

	Date: 7 December 1983 16:36 EST
	From: Patrick G. Sobalvarro <PGS>
	To:   BUG-FINGER, BUG-HOSTS

	As of today, doing :f @oz on mc get me the error message "Could not
        connect to foreign host with TCP."  Crufty, crufty lossage.

    ":F @OZ" works fine for me on MC.
    Maybe there is a bug in the ANALYZ code in the ITS NETWRK package, and
    when it could not connect to OZ over the Chaosnet it decided to give
    the most general TCP error message.

This is the second time this bug has bitten me.  ML is up right now.  On MC,
I did :whois pgs at ml.  I immediately (not long enough for a chaos connection
attempt to time out, but immediately) got the error message "Could not
connect to foreign host with TCP."  Immediately after that, it worked.

From CSTACY at MIT-MC  Mon Dec 12 13:59:00 1983
From: CSTACY at MIT-MC (Christopher C. Stacy)
Date: December 12 1983 07:59 EST
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <mailman.1270.1479821131.4695.its@nocrew.org>

Since all the INFO stuff is on FOURTH:, I can't read documentation
that I want while the system is crippled.

From PGS at MIT-MC  Sat Dec 10 16:05:00 1983
From: PGS at MIT-MC (Patrick G. Sobalvarro)
Date: December 10 1983 10:05 EST
Subject: wierd
In-Reply-To: Msg of 10 Dec 1983 01:50 EST from Alan Bawden <ALAN>
Message-ID: <mailman.1271.1479821131.4695.its@nocrew.org>

    Date: 10 December 1983 01:50 EST
    From: Alan Bawden <ALAN>
    To:   BUG-ITS
    cc:   ITS-LOVERS
    Re:   wierd

    Anybody have any idea where MC:SYS;FORMAT EXE came from?  (Perhaps some
    subversives are planning on bringing 20X up on MC?)

I'd bet that this was a case of someone cftping it over and saying yes to the
stupid cftp defaults.  Why the might have wanted to cftp it over, I don't
know.  Those cftp defaults have never ever been useful to me.  If cftp did
filename-merging, maybe they would be.

From ALAN at MIT-MC  Sat Dec 10 07:50:00 1983
From: ALAN at MIT-MC (Alan Bawden)
Date: December 10 1983 01:50 EST
Subject: wierd
Message-ID: <mailman.1272.1479821131.4695.its@nocrew.org>

Anybody have any idea where MC:SYS;FORMAT EXE came from?  (Perhaps some
subversives are planning on bringing 20X up on MC?)

From KLOTZ at MIT-MC  Fri Dec  9 17:37:00 1983
From: KLOTZ at MIT-MC (Leigh L. Klotz)
Date: December 9 1983 11:37 EST
Subject: Weirdness...
In-Reply-To: Msg of 9 Dec 1983 01:23 EST from Eric P. Scott <EPS>
Message-ID: <mailman.1273.1479821131.4695.its@nocrew.org>

You probably got a parity error.

From EPS at MIT-MC  Fri Dec  9 07:31:00 1983
From: EPS at MIT-MC (Eric P. Scott)
Date: December 9 1983 01:31 EST
Subject: Weirdness (3)
Message-ID: <mailman.1274.1479821131.4695.its@nocrew.org>

I :SNARFed a CHTN and got (BADPI;IOCH12;IOCH0;) 2203>>.HANG   0/  0
This just isn't my day.
					-=EPS=-

From EPS at MIT-MC  Fri Dec  9 07:28:00 1983
From: EPS at MIT-MC (Eric P. Scott)
Date: December 9 1983 01:28 EST
Subject: Weirdness (2)
Message-ID: <mailman.1275.1479821131.4695.its@nocrew.org>

(BADPI;INF0;) 135252>>TDNN 2,   2/   10000,,0   0/   0
I :PDUMPed it to USERS1;EPS DEADDT if anyone cares.

					-=EPS=-

From EPS at MIT-MC  Fri Dec  9 07:23:00 1983
From: EPS at MIT-MC (Eric P. Scott)
Date: December 9 1983 01:23 EST
Subject: Weirdness...
Message-ID: <mailman.1276.1479821131.4695.its@nocrew.org>

I got a tree detached by top-level interrupt followed by
MC ITS REVIVED.  No one else seems to have been affected.
Weird...
					-=EPS=-

From CSTACY at MIT-MC  Mon Dec  5 05:07:00 1983
From: CSTACY at MIT-MC (Christopher C. Stacy)
Date: December 4 1983 23:07 EST
Subject: hanging up phone lines
In-Reply-To: Msg of 4 Dec 1983 17:43 EST from Charles Frankston <CBF>
Message-ID: <mailman.1277.1479821131.4695.its@nocrew.org>


    Date: 4 December 1983 17:43 EST
    From: Charles Frankston <CBF>
    To:   BUG-ITS
    Re:   hanging up phone lines

    ITS needs better facilities for hanging up dialup lines.  Since most other
    computers nowadays automatically hangup the phone line after logout
    (either immediately or with a short timeout), I think some users don't
    realize that they have to do this manually on ITS.

    I don't believe ML has the hardware to hangup a line.  The I/O and Console
    11's on MC have the appropriate hardware but don't give the pdp10 any way
    to control the appropriate bits.

There used to be this .HANGUP UUO...maybe there should be a system
call for reading and frobbing arbitrary bits on tty lines in the pdp-11.

.HANGUP dialnum,	ANCIENT HISTORY	hang up a dialed line
	;skip if successful

	This uuo NO LONGER EXISTS.
	It is documented here for historical purposes only.
	Its function is obsolete.
	Its opcode has been recycled as .REVIVE.

	This uuo was used to hang up on a line which had
	been dialed by the .DIAL uuo.

From CBF at MIT-MC  Sun Dec  4 23:43:00 1983
From: CBF at MIT-MC (Charles Frankston)
Date: December 4 1983 17:43 EST
Subject: hanging up phone lines
Message-ID: <mailman.1278.1479821131.4695.its@nocrew.org>

ITS needs better facilities for hanging up dialup lines.  Since most other
computers nowadays automatically hangup the phone line after logout
(either immediately or with a short timeout), I think some users don't
realize that they have to do this manually on ITS.

I don't believe ML has the hardware to hangup a line.  The I/O and Console
11's on MC have the appropriate hardware but don't give the pdp10 any way
to control the appropriate bits.  At worst something like to LSPEED
command could be used to hangup a line.  At best the system would use the
same sorts of timeouts it uses to close STY channels.  If I get some time
after the term I might look at the LSPEED covert channel.  Informed
suggestions on other approaches would be welcome.

From GumbyatMIT-MC  Fri Dec  2 00:00:00 1983
From: GumbyatMIT-MC (David Vinayak Wallace)
Date: Friday, 2 December 1983, 00:00
Subject: safe site ap8
In-Reply-To: The message of 2 Dec 83 00:00-EST from Pandora B. Berman <CENT at MIT-MC>
Message-ID: <mailman.1279.1479821131.4695.its@nocrew.org>

    Date: 2 December 1983 00:00 EST
    From: Pandora B. Berman <CENT @ MIT-MC>
	TIM at MIT-MC 11/29/83 05:35:55
	Hmm, MC thinks that AP8 is an "insecure" site.  Who/how does this get
	changed? 

    it's built into something. i don't know how to change, but surely someone
    else does.

I fixed this for MC and ML.

From CENT at MIT-MC  Fri Dec  2 06:00:00 1983
From: CENT at MIT-MC (Pandora B. Berman)
Date: December 2 1983 00:00 EST
Subject: safe site
Message-ID: <mailman.1280.1479821131.4695.its@nocrew.org>

    TIM at MIT-MC 11/29/83 05:35:55
    Hmm, MC thinks that AP8 is an "insecure" site.  Who/how does this get
    changed?  (it's not THAT big a deal, but it probably doesn't know about
    other relatively new machines either).

it's built into something. i don't know how to change, but surely someone
else does.