From CENT at AI.AI.MIT.EDU  Wed Nov 19 06:52:23 1986
From: CENT at AI.AI.MIT.EDU (Pandora B. Berman)
Date: Nov 19 86 00:52:23 EST
Subject: ITS boot tapes
Message-ID: <[AI.AI.MIT.EDU].120162.861119.CENT>

    From: mkunix!shawn at EDDIE.MIT.EDU
    Date: Fri, 14 Nov 86 16:56:21 est
    To: mit-eddie!user-accounts at mit-ai
    Subject: ITS boot tapes
    Howdy, I would like to make a copy of the great ITS operating system,
    yes, I know, most people would say 'why', but someday I hope to work in
    a group that has an old KL/KA and bring up ITS... Being in DEC this is
    possable, although probably not likely.
    In any case, I wonder if someone would be willing at some point to
    show, or instruct me, or guide me in some way in how to make the two
    tapes I would need to a) Boot ITS and build a system, and b) Load in
    the sources to ITS, and any applications that are deemed ok to
    take/have.
    Please forgive me if this is the wrong forum, but I have been trying to
    find help from various points and ran out of places to ask... Thanks
    for any help.
				    -- Shawn
    Btw, it may be simpler for anyone who wishes to reply to me, to just
    send me mail on MC, since I don't know if ITS can deal with uucp path
    names, although it may. Thanks again.

of course ITS can deal with uucp paths, at least up to a point. however, as
you suspect, USER-A is the wrong place to ask. even you could have thought
of asking BUG-ITS.

From SRA at MX.LCS.MIT.EDU  Mon Nov 17 03:31:19 1986
From: SRA at MX.LCS.MIT.EDU (Rob Austein)
Date: Nov 16 86 21:31:19 EST
Subject: KL: .; IOELEV *
Message-ID: <[MX.LCS.MIT.EDU].958244.861116.SRA>

I assembled and installed a new version of IOELEV for the KL.  The
only change is that it now knows that its name has changed (no longer
tells you you are connected to MC).  I'll change the namespace
sometime soon if there aren't any problems with this.

While I was installing this silliness, I reorganized the IOELEV
binaries.  KL Console-11 binaries are (as before) in IOELEV nnnBIN
with IOELEV BIN as a link to the latest version (now IOELEV 431BIN).
The AI-Chaos-11 binaries are now in IOELEV nnnAI with a link from
IOELEV AIBIN to the latest version (IOELEV 430AI, the one where I made
subnet six the "primary" address of AI-11 so dover spooling would work
better).

I don't expect any problems.  Next person who cold boots the KL please
tell me what happens (if no problems, tell me that).

--Rob

From Alan at AI.AI.MIT.EDU  Fri Nov 14 01:47:00 1986
From: Alan at AI.AI.MIT.EDU (Alan Bawden)
Date: Nov 13 86 19:47 EST
Subject: AI wedged itself
In-Reply-To: <[AI.AI.MIT.EDU].117740.861112.SRA>
Message-ID: <861113194734.2.ALAN@PIGPEN.AI.MIT.EDU>

    Date: Wed, 12 Nov 86 16:45:19 EST
    From: Rob Austein <SRA at AI.AI.MIT.EDU>
    Dump in AI:CRASH;WEDGED IDUNNO, not that I expect anybody to have any
    use for it.

Looks like there was a power glitch or something.  I'm told there were air
conditioning problems at the time as well.

From SRA at AI.AI.MIT.EDU  Wed Nov 12 22:52:39 1986
From: SRA at AI.AI.MIT.EDU (Rob Austein)
Date: Nov 12 86 16:52:39 EST
Subject: "ECC" errors?
Message-ID: <[AI.AI.MIT.EDU].117747.861112.SRA>

Happened to be next to AI (had just rebooted it).  Heard one of the
RP06s start fibrulating (the sort of mad seek motion that I normally
only see on XX when both XX and its FE are trying to write on drive
zero at the same time).  A few seconds later an ECC message pops up on
the console.  Don't know if it means anything, but thought I should
report it.

From SRA at AI.AI.MIT.EDU  Wed Nov 12 22:45:19 1986
From: SRA at AI.AI.MIT.EDU (Rob Austein)
Date: Nov 12 86 16:45:19 EST
Subject: AI wedged itself
Message-ID: <[AI.AI.MIT.EDU].117740.861112.SRA>

Dump in AI:CRASH;WEDGED IDUNNO, not that I expect anybody to have any
use for it.
--Rob

From DCP at QUABBIN.SCRC.Symbolics.COM  Tue Nov  4 22:27:00 1986
From: DCP at QUABBIN.SCRC.Symbolics.COM (David C. Plummer)
Date: Nov 4 86 16:27 EST
Subject: For those of you around MIT this January
In-Reply-To: <[AI.AI.MIT.EDU].110499.861025.ALAN>
Message-ID: <861104162735.2.DCP@KOYAANISQATSI.S4CC.Symbolics.COM>

    Date: Sat, 25 Oct 86 01:38:44 EDT
    From: Alan Bawden <ALAN at AI.AI.MIT.EDU>

    Hackers,

    It has been suggested that it might be a good idea to teach an ITS course
    during IAP this year.  We have done this twice before with somewhat mixed
    results.  A few sessions were quite memorable, and a few were dogs.  Before
    I decide if I want to front for this again this year, I would like to hear
    from some other people.  Specifically I want to hear:

    Things people want to learn about.

    Opinions about what has worked in the past.

    Volunteers who would enjoy teaching about something.

    Ways of using this to burn excess machine cycles on our many (!) ITS
    machines.  (Student project ideas?)

I don't think I have any of my notes from IAP'83.  Do you (Alan) have
any from IAP'84?  I seemed to remember talking about some of the
following:
	UUOs/.CALL, their skip-on-success feature, their argument
	  passing/returning syntax
	TTY management
	Devices, MLDEV:, CLU/I/O/A:, etc
	Jobs (and BOJs)
	File system, links, etc.
	Greenblat's History lecture
	Moon's hardware description of (the original) AI
With the general proliferation of PCs and high level languages, some of
the more gutsy things, which are the interesting things, may require a
(refresher) course on the assembly language concepts.